The Food and Drug Administration announcedThursday that it has reversed its ban on Juul e-cigarettes while it reviews new court decisions and considers updated information provided by the vape maker.

The FDA first ordered the company to stop selling its products in 2022, but they have stayed on shelves pending an appeal. Juul has maintained its status as the No. 2 e-cigarette maker in the U.S. during this time.

Now, the FDA says Juul’s products are back under agency review — although it emphasized that this new status was not an indication they would be fully cleared.

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    Damage already done. My cousin who vapes switched from Juul to those convient gas station pens where you throw the whole thing, battery included, in the trash once its done. Worse quality, worse for the envrioment, more unknowns in the liquid. The FDAs ban on Juul did nothing but fill the market with worse products they couldn’t give a rats ass about because the initial juul ban was bullshit and they knew it. They actively, and I’d wager knowingly, made Americans less safe.

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      Definitely. Disposables need to be banned, and everything should have to move to either a refillable or cartridge system. The E-waste alone is a nightmare, not to mention who knows what’s in those thousands of brands of sketchy gas station vapes.

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        As a vaper I support this notion. Disposable vapes should go. Pods with replaceable cartridges and preferably also replaceable batteries (yes, those exist) should take their place. I’m mostly a RBA guy, so my only waste is a bit of cotton, some glycol/glycerin and a bit of wire. Batteries will also need replacing, but not for another few years. Personally I hate pointless waste. Throwing away something that’s usable is a sin in my eyes. If you won’t use it at least let somebody else use it instead, that includes the perfectly good components in disposables that get thrown away like trash.

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          I don’t even like having to throw away the bottles my juice comes in. I wish I could just take it back for a refill.

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          I used to vape before I dropped nicotine but like even the pods were problematic enough when it came to environmental issues but hoooly we went in the wrong direction.

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      And now that the big tobacco companies have caught up, of course the “free market” can resume

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    E-cigarettes are so awful for the planet (and probably their users). They shouldn’t be sold until some better waste management system for them is developed. Something similar to a beer can deposit may work.

    Each vape has a $2-3 deposit. All stores that sell vapes must accept old vapes and refund the deposit. This concentrate the waste to go to landfills or a recycling process and should help reduce litter from discarded vapes.

    The litter from the discarded vapes can be hazardous to the environment because they contain plastics, batteries, heavy metals, and addictive chemicals like nicotine. These same materials make the vapes difficult/expensive to recycle.

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      I disagree, that just adds more red tape to the process. IMO, they should just stop making disposables altogether. A proper mod kit is way better for the environment, and significantly less expensive than disposables, in the long run.

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        Yep. While mods them self don’t cost nothing, in general I’d say (compared to what a cigarette smoker would spend) this activity is relatively cheap. Biggest cost for me is flavoring and nicotine. The rest is negligible.

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          Incredibly dumb take, that’s how you get the dangerous shit on the black market killing people.

          Legal, taxed, regulated, not so hard to get you’re better off going to someone on a corner and losing a lung.

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      Even without the deposit, just requiring shops that sell them to accept them back for recycling would make a huge dent.

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        People need an incentive to justify bringing them back to the store instead of tossing them out their window when they stop working.

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    It’s outrageous that we are still letting corpos addict our children to nicotine products in 2024. You should have to be a nerd and do the equivalent of rolling your own cigarettes or have a prescription to get vape carts. It should not be sold at fucking gas stations next to energy shots and candy bars.

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      1. control your damn kids

      2. What gas station sells candy bars behind the counter

      3. it’s outrageous that parents can’t take responsibility for their kids

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        The answer to predatory corporations targeting children is not helicopter parenting. Children need communities in which they can safely grow into independent, self-reliant adults. That means as a society we need to protect them from corporations that seek to exploit their naivete, whether that be via gambling, drugs, social media, or anything else.