I was wondering what exactly should I do there to help with that.

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    Losing weight is actually more about eating at a calorie deficit rather than what exercise you choose. Exercise is still very important in overall health though and can certainly help lose weight, but the actual mechanism is a calorie deficit.

    But to more answer your question, chose something you enjoy so that you actually have motivation to stick with it. If you like cardio, do cardio, if you like weight lifting do that, if you like calisthenics do that.

    And the last thing, be patient with it and yourself but be consistent in both exercise and eating well. As long as you are consistent you will see results.

    Good luck!

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      This…everything else is just sales tactics on memberships and gimmics that won’t do much without eating differently.

      Run a deficit and be patient.

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          I mean, maybe you exaggerate to make a point but there are practical limits to what you can exercise your way out of. I set a challenge to myself to jog a half marathon every day for a year. From January 2022 through January 2023 I jogged 22km a day seven days a week for 367 days. I also did light weights and exercises for my upper body. I burned around 4000/day, as best as I can track with my Garmin watch. Which throw in a couple of milkshakes and you can blow through 5k calories in a day.

          I will say, I did struggle to keep my weight up with such a regimen and a fairly healthy diet and dropped to 150lbs at my lowest (6’2"tall). But if I wanted to eat more calories I could easily get there with fried food and ice cream.

          Edit: and for most people this is completely infeasible. Most people don’t have the time flexibility to wake up at 4 am every day and put on those kinds of miles.

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          You pretty much can’t. You’d need to run for 6-8 hours per day to burn 8000 calories. For most people who are not professional athletes, that’s impossible between work and sleep. To get much beyond 1000 cal/hr output, you need to get into the anaerobic region, which will exhaust you long before you can burn 8000 calories.

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      Exactly!

      “You can’t out run a bad diet”.

      Exercise helps, but once you do the math and see how many calories hard exercise consumes vs how easy it is to eat more calories, it becomes very clear.

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      I also wanted to lose a bit of weight and get stronger, but to me, going to the gym sucks. I never stick with that, but I really enjoy physical activities with a purpose. So I joined a rock climbing gym. It’s all the physical working out that I want with all the fun that I need to stick with it. Now if I could just eat better…

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      Also remember that you can’t lose weight in a specific part of your body. As you lose weight, your body chooses where the fat is reduced. No exercise can target fat in a specific area. Anyone telling you otherwise is selling you something.

      Should note that working on the underlying muscle might help certain areas look less fat but that effect is negligible compared to finding a regimen that works for you in the long run to keep your calorie intake less than your calorie burn rate .

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      My favorite weight loss exercise is existing but being very cold. Not even joking. That’s the whole thing.

      If you want to balance calories with low effort, expose yourself to whatever temperature you shiver at (cold water is great for this because you lose heat 25x faster when wet). You burn an absolute ton of calories for heat, and recruit beige fat cells to function as brown fat cells which exist only to burn through fat to maintain homeostasis. The more you shiver, the more effective you are at ambient calorie burn when you don’t shiver.

      https://www.medicaldaily.com/shivering-more-effective-exercise-15-minutes-shivering-may-burn-more-fat-1-hour-working-out-268555

      Cardio is wonderful for upping your overall metabolism, as is building any muscle. They also both work to strengthen your overall system. Do those things. They are good for you.

      But for pure calorie balancing and deficits, cold wins hands down as far as effort involved. Because it’s just sitting there being uncomfortable, and that’s easy, some of us are that way always :)

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        while i’m sure this does work well, i’d maybe tone down the miraculousity of your message a bit. Don’t want to overhype people and have them hurt themselves or simply not see such a big effect and conclude it’s a sham.

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          I don’t think I oversold it at all, it’s just a calorie balancer, it’s not going to do anything else, and it won’t fix a bad diet…

          But it does work; it’s just a standard biological mechanism. If you shiver, you burn a ton of energy to do so, it comes from fat. This is true in any species with the shiver capacity, that’s what it’s for.

          Bigger people need more shiver time and lower temps, which makes it harder to see the result, but it still works.

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      Of course, yes, good point. You can lose weight by doing nothing as long as you are in a calorie deficit.

      It is also essential to enjoy what you’re doing or it’s impossible to stick with.

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      The reason it’s hard to build muscle, is muscles are incredibly inefficient and a huge calorie sink.

      If you’re heavily muscled, you’re using more calories even if you’re not working out. Just reaching out to grab something takes more energy.

      So building muscle means you have a higher caloric baseline.

      And that’s not even getting into calorie density. 150 calories worth of beans will keep you feeling full for a long time, and a 12 ounce can of soda won’t make anyone feel full because it’s all liquid already.

      Then there’s physically eating slower and chewing more, because we evolved to not feel full if we’re still eating.

      Reducing it just down to “eat less calories than you use” is technically correct, but it’s the details that help people.

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    Change your diet. You lose weight in the kitchen.

    Grant yourself a cheat day from time to time but stay on your diet the first months. I’ve been on a diet for about three years now and I can have a cheat day once a week.

    Expect it to be something you have to commit to the rest of your life but believe me, it gets easier. Don’t go on a crash diet but do something that you realistically can maintain.

    Then start with some moderate exercise. Just walking more often is a great way to lose weight.

    You can’t target zones to lose weight but you can tone zones by building muscle. Bigger shoulders lake your waist look thinner.

    Stick to it. You’ll feel better overall. Good luck.

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      This is the way.

      I started by just eating less. I cut portions and started counting calories. I did the math and started staying under my number, and the pounds just melted off.

      A couple months later, I added biking and walking. I’m trying to walk at least 30 minutes daily, which is just a nice break from everything.

      I’m down 120 pounds. I want to drop more, but I’ve been pretty stationary for the past 3 months or so. I’m already a new man, and my doctor says I’m fine where I am. I’d like to drop another 10 just to be solidly below 200 for the first time in decades.

      I went to a personal trainer for some ideas on exercises, and I need to fit those workouts into my schedule. I haven’t done that yet, but I need to.

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      For me it took a full 6 months of intermittent fasting along with 40 + hr fasts, bodyweight exercise and then cardio to see any significant loss.

      Anyone trying to lose weight should plan for minimum 6months time frame. You won’t see results for at least 3 months.
      Get a digital scale and track ur water weight so UK when you’re actually losing fat.

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      If you don’t want to do sprints, my weight loss rule of thumb is panting.

      You gotta be pushing yourself to get out of breath. That’s literally how you lose weight. You exhale it. So push your body to exhale a lot.

      I use small hikes to stay in shape.

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        Can you expound a bit about panting? Do you mean any kind of activity that results to you panting would work?

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          Unless you’re panting because you’re scarfing down food so fast you need to catch your breath, then yes.

          Weight loss can pretty much always be simplified to calories in, calories out. All the different fads, trends, diets, and fasting are all just different means to either reduce your calories in, or increase your calories out.

          Anything that makes you pant is more calories out.

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    There’s a lot of bro-science in here (“Your body metabolizes sugar to basically fat”, no, it doesn’t, sugar is just a simple, easily metabolized carbohydrate, and as long as you aren’t exceeding your caloric intake regularly, it’s fine).

    You can loose weight by exercise alone, but it’s a challenge; most people tend to start eating more (consciously or not) once they’re exercising. Exercise is only have of the equation. Diet is the other part. Most people are very, very resistant to changing their diet, because they have an emotional connection with food. Think about that; is what you eat more important to you than how you feel? Are you willing to make life-long changes, or are you just trying to have a beach body? “Dieting” is setting yourself up for failure; you want to be changing your entire lifestyle and relationship with food and movement.

    So, let’s start off with something super-important: talk to a registered dietician. Don’t make radical changes to your diet without consulting a professional that’s qualified to give answers to YOU.

    Second: spot fat reduction is not a thing, unless you want to go the surgical route. You need to reduce body fat all over in order to reduce fat on your neck and waist.

    Third: do a resting metabolic rate test, and find out how many calories you burn just existing. That gives you an idea of what you need to eat to maintain your weight, what you need to your macros (daily carbohydrate, protein, and fat intake), and where you need to be as far as exercising. At one time you could get them done at certain Lifetime Fitness locations, and they were a couple hundred bucks. Without knowing this, dieting and exercise is being done blindly.

    Fourth: Once you know your metabolic rate, and you’ve consulted with a dietician, start keeping track of everything that goes in your mouth in a day. Start by just taking a photo, and get used to that. (And yes, everything; every drink that isn’t plain water, every single thing you swallow.) Once you’ve gotten used to that, then start writing it down. Once you can reliably write everything down, start measuring everything. How many ounces of Cheerios go in your bowl in the morning, how much milk, and how many eggs are you scrambling? Once you’ve got that? then start comparing that to your macros. How many grams of carbs, protein, and fats are in your Cheerios, milk, and scrambled eggs (and don’t forget to count the butter that goes in the pan before you scramble your eggs!)? That tells you where you are, and where you need to add, and where you need to cut.

    While you’re doing that:

    Start with cardio, just to get in the habit of moving. I would suggest buying a heart rate monitor (I have a Garmin Instinct). Figure out your maximum heart rate (220 minus your age), and generally work at 60-80% of that, for 30-60 minutes at a time. Working above 80% increases your aerobic threshold, staying below 50% isn’t going to give you a significant benefit.

    Weight training should be your bread and butter. Cardio burns calories now, weight training burns calories for up to 3-4 hours after you’re done in the gym, and muscle burns more calories just existing than fat does. If you have never done weight training before, I would strongly suggest that you hire a personal trainer. Look for a trainer that has at least a BS in exercise science or kinesiology, and a training certification from ASCM (American College of Sport Medicine) or the NSCA (National Strength and Conditioning Assoc.). Other physical trainer certifications are worth about as much as the paper they’re printed on, and I say this as someone that was certified through NASM. ASCM and NSCA have a very strong science-based approach that other certifying bodies lack. DO NOT sign up for months and months of training, unless you simply can’t motivate yourself, or are unable to replicate training prompts on your own; you want someone that will create a program for you to follow for several months that isn’t just trendy, bullshit exercises (see also: fitness “influencers”), and coach you through the proper way to complete the motion so that you can do it safely and effectively. Unless you have significant movement deficiencies, your goal should be to use freeweights and for almost everything. A trainer should be able to tailor your programming to your goals; there’s no one-size-fits-all. Generally speaking, if you’ve never lifted weights before, 30 minutes of fairly intense work is about all you’ll be able to manage.

    Finally: Best case, with perfect diet and exercise, you should be losing no more than 1-2 pounds of fat per week. That’s the most that will be sustainable. Don’t worry about raw weight; worry about measurements, and body composition.

    Is this a lot? Yeah, it is. And it’s barely scratching the surface.

    But everyone starts on the ground floor.

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      There’s a lot of bro-science in here (“Your body metabolizes sugar to basically fat”, no, it doesn’t, sugar is just a simple, easily metabolized carbohydrate, and as long as you aren’t exceeding your caloric intake regularly, it’s fine).

      +1 to this. I have a pretty terrible diet (I make ice cream fairly often) but I’ve been able to control my weight by cutting calories elsewhere.

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    There is no way to target specific areas of fat. You just need to expend more energy than you consume and you’ll get skinnier. So do lots of exercise, decrease portions, eat healthier and sleep better. It sounds simple but it takes a long time and a lot of effort to build and maintain good habits.

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    I’m not agym.go-er or a trainer… aerobic workouts. I lost 30kg over 12months just by walking 10000 purposeful steps a day and doing 2 rounds of interval training (HIIT) a night. Once my fitness came back/got some fitness, I started introducing weights… and more importantly, I watched what I ate. Specifically, i stopped all sometimes foods and stopped eating bread. This worked for me. But you can’t go from little to no exercise tomall the exercise. Work up to it

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    Some thoughts.

    Regarding weight loss, diet is more efficient to exercise. But exercise has tons of other benefit, especially regarding mental /physical health and it can also be the base of healthy habits to improve your lifestyle. Just compare one hour on the threadmill with a starbuck’s pumpkin spice latte.

    Gym is not for everybody, there is tons of other sports, if you want to stick with it, find a sport you enjoy in a club with nice persons. If you exercise like you clean the toilets you won’t be regular, if you have a fun time with friends you will.

    If you can afford a couple of kickstart session with a trainer, go for it.

    Depending how overweight you are avoid running, and do body weight training and elliptical

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    Take it easy, patience is key for sustainable weight loss. As a beginner 3x workouts a week are good.

    Be sure to make a training plan you can use for orientation. Cardio is great for burning calories, but don’t underestimate the power of muscle training. Building muscles will help shape your body and you’ll lose a lot of calories on the long term. Do not be afraid of gaining “too much muscles”, that is not happening within a couple of months.

    Best would be a full body workout, splitting muscle groups is not recommended for beginners who work out 3x a week. Start with the machines, they are relatively easy to use and to adjust, there is less danger of wrong movements.
    Challenge yourself, but don’t overdo it, otherwise you can hurt yourself seriously (joints etc.).
    Do not forget a warm-up, 10-15 minutes of whatever machine you like (bike, treadmill etc.). Finish with a 30 minutes cardio session if you are serious.

    That’s the part in the gym.

    For weight loss the most important thing is your diet. No need for protein shakes or meat the whole day, just don’t eat over your budget. Maybe you have already tried this and you are frustrated because it didn’t have the effects you expected - don’t worry, the gym will accelerate this. Eat something not too heavy after workout, ideally protein/fats instead of carbs.

    The third aspect is sleep. Your body will regenerate during your sleep so it is super important. Try do get your 8 hours or whatever amount you need.

    Last advice is again patience. Success will only come from continuity, not 2 weeks but several months. 1-2 pounds per week is already great and sutainable and if you watch out for workout, nutrition, sleep, it will for sure happen.

    You got this!

    Edit: As others have said, you cannot target a region for weight loss. However in my experience there are regions where you first start to gain weight and also lose weight. For people born as biological man this is often face and belly.

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    exercises that target weight loss in specific areas dont exist. your body has a genetic predisposition in regards to where it allocates fat. eat a bit healthier, eat a bit less, exercise regularly and your body will do its best with what you give it, every day

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    Don’t bother with the gym, it will almost certainly just be a waste of money and a source of stress.

    Instead, learn how to eat healthily (good start is eating less in general and eating more greens) and start easing yourself into getting more exercise.
    The key to weight loss is making changes that you can maintain for the rest of your life, otherwise you will inevitably rebound and be sad.

    If you can, probably the single most effective way to lose weight for most people is to start biking or walking to work, this is a trivial way to burn tons of calories compared to driving.

    Also important is to fully expect it to take a year before you notice a difference, this is going to be a lifestyle change so you have to commit, and it’s better to be positively surprised to see a difference early, than the opposite.

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    You’re not going to have a lot of luck targeting areas, regardless of what Internet and checkout lane magazines might claim. Your best bet is generalized diet and exercise based weight loss plus building areas you want to build (arms, legs, butt, chest, whatever).

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        Thanks! Simple things like this are what helped me a lot. Another was the fact that humans use most of their calories maintaining body temperature. So while you do burn more calories while exercising in warm weather, staying cold will cause higher continuous calorie burn.

        So the secret to weight loss is to be cold and hungry, and to supplement this with forced labor. Using these methods I was able to get into the best shape of my life.

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        I’m not saying that you have a problem, but I will point out that this sounds like the kind of thinking that can lead to eating disorders.

        It’s possible to eat less and not always feel hungry. It’s just not easy. Turning hunger into a “good” thing isn’t actually a healthy approach to dieting.

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          Yes and no. There are certain things you can do on the margin, such as eating more satiating foods, but ultimately you will likely feel hunger pangs when you are eating below your caloric maintenance.

          I don’t mean to say that one should always feel hungry, regardless of what they are eating.